thank you for joining us. >> thank you. it's good to be with you. >> so, first of all, are we doing the right thing in libya? >> well, the first thing that one has to say is that we have u.s. military forces involved. everyone has to be hopeful that it turns out well. and that the progress proceeds. what concerns me is the questions that have been raised. they are fair questions. questions about who the rebels are. and i think probably the most important question is whether or not gadhafi will stay. if you put yourself in the shoes of the rebels, they wonder whether or not the coalition has an interest in gadhafi leaving. there's a great deal of ambiguity about that. gadhafi's forces wonder whether or not gadhafi will be leaving. there's the same ambiguity that affects their decision making. and until that's clarified, it seems to me, we'll have a much more difficult time. i think that the goal has to be that gadhafi leaves. >> that is not the goal of the military campaign. the military campaign's mission is civilian protec